When Jesus traveled our diseased and dangerous roads, He must have noticed the worry on our faces because He was always saying, “Do not be afraid.”

"Do not be afraid any longer, only believe." Mk.5

If we want our fears to melt, we must move into the warmth of all that God is offering us. He is  a coat in the cold, wisdom at the moment of decision, and strength at the point of weakness. He is the motivation to live life as it should be lived. His grace is the gumption we feel to do something about a concern. He is the spiritual vitality of all faith, hope, and love. What do you need at this moment? God is the great I am!  Conversations Within” ts 5/24/2014

When Jesus traveled our diseased and dangerous roads, He must have noticed the worry on our faces because He was always saying, “Do not be afraid.”

"Do not be afraid any longer, only believe." Mk.5

If we want our fears to melt, we must move into the warmth of all that God is offering us. He is  a coat in the cold, wisdom at the moment of decision, and strength at the point of weakness. He is the motivation to live life as it should be lived. His grace is the gumption we feel to do something about a concern. He is the spiritual vitality of all faith, hope, and love. What do you need at this moment? God is the great I am!  Conversations Within” ts 5/24/2014

“Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow, it empties today of its strength.” Corrie ten Boom

“Stop worrying…” Phil.4

Worry and fear work together to rob us of life’s strength. It is good to be reminded that we do not have to cooperate with these thieves when they come to ransack our peace. The best way to resist them is to redirect our energies away from the future and into all that God is promising to be and asking us to do in the present moment.  Conversations Within” ts 5/23/2014

“Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow, it empties today of its strength.” Corrie ten Boom

“Stop worrying…” Phil.4

Worry and fear work together to rob us of life’s strength. It is good to be reminded that we do not have to cooperate with these thieves when they come to ransack our peace. The best way to resist them is to redirect our energies away from the future and into all that God is promising to be and asking us to do in the present moment.  Conversations Within” ts 5/23/2014

Christian hope is more akin to the expectation of someone looking forward to spring than it is like a child hoping it doesn't rain over the holidays.

“You hold my lot.” Ps.16

If it is true that fear usually involves the future--what may or may never happen--then thise who trust in God need never to worry. God Himself gives the assurance to His children that He, not fate or fickle choices holds our future. The way I see it is that we have two choices; the future can influence this present moment by our fears or by our faith.  Conversations Within” ts 5/22/2014

Christian hope is more akin to the expectation of someone looking forward to spring than it is like a child hoping it doesn't rain over the holidays.

“You hold my lot.” Ps.16

If it is true that fear usually involves the future--what may or may never happen--then thise who trust in God need never to worry. God Himself gives the assurance to His children that He, not fate or fickle choices holds our future. The way I see it is that we have two choices; the future can influence this present moment by our fears or by our faith.  Conversations Within” ts 5/22/2014

“I fear the prayers of John Knox more than all the assembled armies of Europe.” Mary, Queen of Scots

“The LORD is for me; I will not fear; What can man do to me?” Ps.118

A proper fear gives proper respect to the object of our fears. Having a proper respect say for the power of electricity is one way we discover its value, and discover it without injury. To believe that God has the final say in everything is to give due respect to Him, and is one way we discover His value. To fear God in this manner, is the best way of disarming all other fears.   Conversations Within” ts 5/21/2014

“I fear the prayers of John Knox more than all the assembled armies of Europe.” Mary, Queen of Scots

“The LORD is for me; I will not fear; What can man do to me?” Ps.118

A proper fear gives proper respect to the object of our fears. Having a proper respect say for the power of electricity is one way we discover its value, and discover it without injury. To believe that God has the final say in everything is to give due respect to Him, and is one way we discover His value. To fear God in this manner, is the best way of disarming all other fears.   Conversations Within” ts 5/21/2014

“The only place that fear can exist is in our thoughts of the future. It is a product of our imagination, causing us to fear things that do not at present and may not ever exist.” Will Smith (After Earth-the movie)

“...perfect love casts out fear: because fear has torment.” 1Jo.4

I am struck by the fact that most fear involves the future in some way--what may or may never happen. I might loose my job, or die of cancer or be killed by a tornado. This means that we can in the very least deal with some of our fears by being where we are or by “rooting our self in this present moment” (a phrase from the movie mentioned above).  By attending to the present we can soberly think about a potential threat and find a proper not a panicked response to it. God usually will have a beneficial word or two about it.   Conversations Within” ts 5/20/2014

“The only place that fear can exist is in our thoughts of the future. It is a product of our imagination, causing us to fear things that do not at present and may not ever exist.” Will Smith (After Earth-the movie)

“...perfect love casts out fear: because fear has torment.” 1Jo.4

I am struck by the fact that most fear involves the future in some way--what may or may never happen. I might loose my job, or die of cancer or be killed by a tornado. This means that we can in the very least deal with some of our fears by being where we are or by “rooting our self in this present moment” (a phrase from the movie mentioned above).  By attending to the present we can soberly think about a potential threat and find a proper not a panicked response to it. God usually will have a beneficial word or two about it.   Conversations Within” ts 5/20/2014

“Fear is not your enemy. It is a compass pointing you to the areas where you need to grow.” Steve Pavina

“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all those who practice it have a good understanding.” Ps.111

That God loves fallen people is surely seen because of everything He has given to help us live in a fallen world. A healthy fear or heightened awareness of danger is one of them. Such fear is a gift to sharpen our response to threats and there are many threats in our messed up world. It is only when fear becomes panic and is uncontrolled that can cause us harm.  Wisdom teaches us to use fear as God’s provision to help lead us to safety. .   Conversations Within” ts 5/19/2014

“Fear is not your enemy. It is a compass pointing you to the areas where you need to grow.” Steve Pavina

“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all those who practice it have a good understanding.” Ps.111

That God loves fallen people is surely seen because of everything He has given to help us live in a fallen world. A healthy fear or heightened awareness of danger is one of them. Such fear is a gift to sharpen our response to threats and there are many threats in our messed up world. It is only when fear becomes panic and is uncontrolled that can cause us harm.  Wisdom teaches us to use fear as God’s provision to help lead us to safety. .   Conversations Within” ts 5/19/2014

Everybody loves an extra helping of something good. Be one!

“He who is generous will be blessed…” Prov.22

How would it feel if someone took your trash down to the street when they took their own?  Imagine someone cutting your grass while you were on vacation without being asked. Don't just wait for opportunities to serve, create them. Do the unexpected. Conversations Within” ts 5/17/2014

Everybody loves an extra helping of something good. Be one!

“He who is generous will be blessed…” Prov.22

How would it feel if someone took your trash down to the street when they took their own?  Imagine someone cutting your grass while you were on vacation without being asked. Don't just wait for opportunities to serve, create them. Do the unexpected. Conversations Within” ts 5/17/2014

“The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra.” Jimmy Johnson

“Call to me, and I will answer you; I will tell you wonderful and marvelous things that you know nothing about.” Jer.33

I believe that God wants us to live extraordinary lives--to go the second mile, to forgive seven times seventy, to turn the other cheek, to love our enemies, in short to go beyond and put the extra in the ordinary. When we invite Christ into our lives He becomes the catalyst that begins this transformation. God would raise us from the dead to live the resurrected life of glory and goodness and escape the drudgery of mere existence. Conversations Within” ts 5/16/2014

“The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra.” Jimmy Johnson

“Call to me, and I will answer you; I will tell you wonderful and marvelous things that you know nothing about.” Jer.33

I believe that God wants us to live extraordinary lives--to go the second mile, to forgive seven times seventy, to turn the other cheek, to love our enemies, in short to go beyond and put the extra in the ordinary. When we invite Christ into our lives He becomes the catalyst that begins this transformation. God would raise us from the dead to live the resurrected life of glory and goodness and escape the drudgery of mere existence. Conversations Within” ts 5/16/2014

Leave a place better than you find it. Leave people better than you find them.

“Let each of us please his neighbor for his good, to build him up.” Rom.15

If it is in our power to improve the lives of people, let us do so humbly as servants, not as meddlesome know-it-alls. People know when they are being served just as they know when someone is trying to sell them something. Be a server, not a bothersome salesperson.    Conversations Within” ts 5/15/2014

Leave a place better than you find it. Leave people better than you find them.

“Let each of us please his neighbor for his good, to build him up.” Rom.15

If it is in our power to improve the lives of people, let us do so humbly as servants, not as meddlesome know-it-alls. People know when they are being served just as they know when someone is trying to sell them something. Be a server, not a bothersome salesperson.    Conversations Within” ts 5/15/2014

“The fruit of faith is love and the fruit of love is service.” Mother Teresa

“Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required.” Jesus

It should not come as a surprise to any of us that God expects results from the investments He is making in our lives. Our talents, possessions, even our time are entrusted to us so that we can live fruitful lives. And what is fruit? It is the tree, the plant, the Christian all sharing life to reproduce, sustain and encourage other life.  Conversations Within” ts 5/14/2014

“The fruit of faith is love and the fruit of love is service.” Mother Teresa

“Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required.” Jesus

It should not come as a surprise to any of us that God expects results from the investments He is making in our lives. Our talents, possessions, even our time are entrusted to us so that we can live fruitful lives. And what is fruit? It is the tree, the plant, the Christian all sharing life to reproduce, sustain and encourage other life.  Conversations Within” ts 5/14/2014

“Do more than is required.” Gary Ryan Blair

“For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?” Jesus

God invites us to the sheer joy of doing more than is expected. He wants each of us to excel--to go beyond and discover the nature of abounding love. His kind of love is not restricted, it is unleashed. Because love is its own reward, we are encouraged to abound in it more and more, even to love those who hate us; we might even say especially those who hate us. Who better to love than those who have yet to discover the power of redemptive love.   Conversations Within” ts 5/13/2014

“Do more than is required.” Gary Ryan Blair

“For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?” Jesus

God invites us to the sheer joy of doing more than is expected. He wants each of us to excel--to go beyond and discover the nature of abounding love. His kind of love is not restricted, it is unleashed. Because love is its own reward, we are encouraged to abound in it more and more, even to love those who hate us; we might even say especially those who hate us. Who better to love than those who have yet to discover the power of redemptive love.   Conversations Within” ts 5/13/2014

“Go the extra mile. It is never crowded.” Unknown

“If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.” Jesus

I have been to some beautiful places. Most of them required some extra effort--a long hike or a climb up to some vista. Just about everything spectacular in life can only be experienced after we walk the extra mile. Relationships are no different. Do not do only what is expected, go further up and further in and you will see what few eyes see and experience the wonders that line the path of unrestrained love.   Conversations Within” ts 5/12/2014

“Go the extra mile. It is never crowded.” Unknown

“If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.” Jesus

I have been to some beautiful places. Most of them required some extra effort--a long hike or a climb up to some vista. Just about everything spectacular in life can only be experienced after we walk the extra mile. Relationships are no different. Do not do only what is expected, go further up and further in and you will see what few eyes see and experience the wonders that line the path of unrestrained love.   Conversations Within” ts 5/12/2014

“It is only goodness which gives extras, and so I say again that we have much to hope from the flowers.” Arthur Conan Doyle

“See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! 1Jo.3

God not only provides, He abundantly provides. He gives over and above what is needed. Every flower is a plus, every fragrant petal a reminder that He wants more for His children than just mere survival. Perhaps the greatest example of His overwhelming love is our adoption as sons and daughters. He wants to be more for us than just some deity, He invites us to call Him “Dad.”  Conversations Within” ts 5/10/2014

“It is only goodness which gives extras, and so I say again that we have much to hope from the flowers.” Arthur Conan Doyle

“See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! 1Jo.3

God not only provides, He abundantly provides. He gives over and above what is needed. Every flower is a plus, every fragrant petal a reminder that He wants more for His children than just mere survival. Perhaps the greatest example of His overwhelming love is our adoption as sons and daughters. He wants to be more for us than just some deity, He invites us to call Him “Dad.”  Conversations Within” ts 5/10/2014

If I ask for daily bread I should gratefully eat whatever God puts on my plate.

“Give us this day our daily bread.” Jesus

I have always had, and pretty much expect to always have everything I need. If God is my Father why should I expect anything less? The real challenge I face is to wake to God’s provision. God wisely uses our needs to meet our one true need. We are never in a better place than when we sit at His table giving thanks for what He sets before us.  Conversations Within” ts 5/9/2014

If I ask for daily bread I should gratefully eat whatever God puts on my plate.

“Give us this day our daily bread.” Jesus

I have always had, and pretty much expect to always have everything I need. If God is my Father why should I expect anything less? The real challenge I face is to wake to God’s provision. God wisely uses our needs to meet our one true need. We are never in a better place than when we sit at His table giving thanks for what He sets before us.  Conversations Within” ts 5/9/2014

“God provides the wind but man must raise the sails.” Augustine

“Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; For it is God that worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” Phil. 2

One bit of wisdom advises, “Give your children enough money to do something, but not enough to do nothing.” I believe this is consistent with the way God provides for his children. God surely does not want to cripple his children, but rather enable us to live productive lives. We should stop expecting God to do work which He has clearly assigned to us.  Conversations Within” ts 5/8/2014

“God provides the wind but man must raise the sails.” Augustine

“Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; For it is God that worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” Phil. 2

One bit of wisdom advises, “Give your children enough money to do something, but not enough to do nothing.” I believe this is consistent with the way God provides for his children. God surely does not want to cripple his children, but rather enable us to live productive lives. We should stop expecting God to do work which He has clearly assigned to us.  Conversations Within” ts 5/8/2014

“He did not teach me to swim just to watch me drown.” Kate Williams

“He reached down from heaven and took hold of me; He pulled me out of deep waters.” Ps.18

So clear and certain is God’s past faithfulness that what lies behind clearly and certainly establishes what lies ahead. We may take great comfort from looking back with gratitude in order to strengthen our hope of looking forward in faith. If God has seen us this far on our journey, why would we doubt His provision for the rest of it? Surely He walks with us into the sunset to see us through to His everlasting sunrise. Conversations Within” ts 5/7/2014

“He did not teach me to swim just to watch me drown.” Kate Williams

“He reached down from heaven and took hold of me; He pulled me out of deep waters.” Ps.18

So clear and certain is God’s past faithfulness that what lies behind clearly and certainly establishes what lies ahead. We may take great comfort from looking back with gratitude in order to strengthen our hope of looking forward in faith. If God has seen us this far on our journey, why would we doubt His provision for the rest of it? Surely He walks with us into the sunset to see us through to His everlasting sunrise. Conversations Within” ts 5/7/2014

“The happiest people don't have the best of everything. They just make the best of everything.” Unknown.

“You set the table before me…” Ps.23

The selfish only do what they enjoy, the content have learned to enjoy whatever they do. It is a precious grace to embrace each day--to discover all that God desires to be for us and through us. God deals the cards. He sets the table and gives us our portion each day. Come to His table with gratitude, and play the game with a smile. God’s best is often found when we do our best to lay hold of it.  Conversations Within” ts 5/6/2014

“The happiest people don't have the best of everything. They just make the best of everything.” Unknown.

“You set the table before me…” Ps.23

The selfish only do what they enjoy, the content have learned to enjoy whatever they do. It is a precious grace to embrace each day--to discover all that God desires to be for us and through us. God deals the cards. He sets the table and gives us our portion each day. Come to His table with gratitude, and play the game with a smile. God’s best is often found when we do our best to lay hold of it.  Conversations Within” ts 5/6/2014

“Abundance isn't God's provision for me to live in luxury. It's his provision for me to help others live.” Randy Alcorn

“It is more blessed to give than to receive.” Jesus

There are many ways to trust Jesus. One is to believe He has the words of life and then choose to live by them each day. One bit of wisdom that Jesus has communicated is that our lives will be richer and fuller when we are free from holding on to possessions and choose rather to share them with others. Does what I own, own me, or do I see my money and possessions as tools to love others? Conversations Within” ts 5/5/2014

“Abundance isn't God's provision for me to live in luxury. It's his provision for me to help others live.” Randy Alcorn

“It is more blessed to give than to receive.” Jesus

There are many ways to trust Jesus. One is to believe He has the words of life and then choose to live by them each day. One bit of wisdom that Jesus has communicated is that our lives will be richer and fuller when we are free from holding on to possessions and choose rather to share them with others. Does what I own, own me, or do I see my money and possessions as tools to love others? Conversations Within” ts 5/5/2014

“Lust is the craving for salt of a man who is dying of thirst.” - Frederick Buechner

"Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink.” Jesus

Thirst itself can be a powerful grace. It drives us to drink, and hopefully, from the only fountain that can quench it. Those who have tasted the pure waters of joy have learned that no pleasure in all the world can compare. Why drink from something that can never satisfy. Come, my soul, to that one fountain, drink and be eternally satisfied. Conversations Within” ts 4/30/2014

“Lust is the craving for salt of a man who is dying of thirst.” - Frederick Buechner

"Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink.” Jesus

Thirst itself can be a powerful grace. It drives us to drink, and hopefully, from the only fountain that can quench it. Those who have tasted the pure waters of joy have learned that no pleasure in all the world can compare. Why drink from something that can never satisfy. Come, my soul, to that one fountain, drink and be eternally satisfied. Conversations Within” ts 4/30/2014

“Life’s never a postcard of life, is it? It never feels like how you’d want it to look.” Russell Brand

“I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.” Rom 8 NIV

If life doesn’t feel right, we should remember that there are also moments when life seems to be too good to be true. We have a phrase for it, “It doesn't get any better than this!” In the back of our mind we believe it will get better of course. This is the Christian hope of glory. But for the moment, however brief it is, we are caught up in the rapture and beauty of this moment and catch a glimpse of Heaven’s every moment.  Conversations Within” ts 4/28/2014

“Life’s never a postcard of life, is it? It never feels like how you’d want it to look.” Russell Brand

“I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.” Rom 8 NIV

If life doesn’t feel right, we should remember that there are also moments when life seems to be too good to be true. We have a phrase for it, “It doesn't get any better than this!” In the back of our mind we believe it will get better of course. This is the Christian hope of glory. But for the moment, however brief it is, we are caught up in the rapture and beauty of this moment and catch a glimpse of Heaven’s every moment.  Conversations Within” ts 4/28/2014

”Hurting someone can be as easy as throwing a stone in the sea. But do you have any idea how deep that stone can go?”

“Behold my hands and my feet…” Jesus

Careless words and actions often leave scars. The wound may eventually heal, but the scar remains. If we understand the Bible correctly, Jesus still carries the scars of the cross on His resurrected body. What can we do when we see some scar left by our hand? I am sure God does not want us to wallow in guilt. Such sorrow is only thinking of yourself. Beyond asking for forgiveness, we can ask God to work beauty out of our ugliness and believe that He can.

”Hurting someone can be as easy as throwing a stone in the sea. But do you have any idea how deep that stone can go?”

“Behold my hands and my feet…” Jesus

Careless words and actions often leave scars. The wound may eventually heal, but the scar remains. If we understand the Bible correctly, Jesus still carries the scars of the cross on His resurrected body. What can we do when we see some scar left by our hand? I am sure God does not want us to wallow in guilt. Such sorrow is only thinking of yourself. Beyond asking for forgiveness, we can ask God to work beauty out of our ugliness and believe that He can.

“In my place condemned He stood; Sealed my pardon with His blood. Hallelujah! What a Savior!” Phillip Bliss

“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.” Jesus

Dear Jesus, did you wear a millstone around your neck for me? I have certainly hurt others. I have caused some of your precious ones to stumble. Were you drowned in the dark depths in my place? Words fail me, O Hope of my salvation! Conversations Within” ts 5/2/2014

“In my place condemned He stood; Sealed my pardon with His blood. Hallelujah! What a Savior!” Phillip Bliss

“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.” Jesus

Dear Jesus, did you wear a millstone around your neck for me? I have certainly hurt others. I have caused some of your precious ones to stumble. Were you drowned in the dark depths in my place? Words fail me, O Hope of my salvation! Conversations Within” ts 5/2/2014

“Seek first to understand; then to be understood.” Stephen Covey

“Love is not self-seeking.” 1Cor.13

Seeing another’s point of view is easier when you feel how they feel. If there is ever a time to put yourself in another person’s shoes it is after you have hurt them. Using your imagination may help, but the Spirit of Christ will help more. The point is not to beat oneself up--that is only a form of self-centered thinking. The point is get out of yourself, to humbly listen, seek to understand and patiently serve the cause of healing if only in your prayers.   Conversations Within” ts 5/2/2014

“Seek first to understand; then to be understood.” Stephen Covey

“Love is not self-seeking.” 1Cor.13

Seeing another’s point of view is easier when you feel how they feel. If there is ever a time to put yourself in another person’s shoes it is after you have hurt them. Using your imagination may help, but the Spirit of Christ will help more. The point is not to beat oneself up--that is only a form of self-centered thinking. The point is get out of yourself, to humbly listen, seek to understand and patiently serve the cause of healing if only in your prayers.   Conversations Within” ts 5/2/2014

It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to give it.

“Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.” Ps.51

Is there any grace like being forgiven, any joy like a relationship restored? Forgiveness where God is concerned is immediate. Even so, people must often catch up to it. It is sometimes hard to forgive yourself. And, where others are concerned, forgiveness is easier to ask for than it is to give. We must often give people time to forgive just as we must often work to convince ourselves of God’s.  Conversations Within” ts 4/30/2014

It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to give it.

“Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.” Ps.51

Is there any grace like being forgiven, any joy like a relationship restored? Forgiveness where God is concerned is immediate. Even so, people must often catch up to it. It is sometimes hard to forgive yourself. And, where others are concerned, forgiveness is easier to ask for than it is to give. We must often give people time to forgive just as we must often work to convince ourselves of God’s.  Conversations Within” ts 4/30/2014

“Affliction comes to us, not to make us sad but sober; not to make us sorry but wise.” H. G. Wells

“For the LORD disciplines those he loves, just as a father disciplines the son in whom he delights.” Prov.3

One reason we should be thankful when God chooses to correct us, is that it is one sure way of knowing He loves you. It may not be a pleasant reminder, but it is a certain one. Parents correct their own children not someone elses. Rebuke is a reminder that God looks on you as His child.  Conversations Within” ts 4/26/2014

“Affliction comes to us, not to make us sad but sober; not to make us sorry but wise.” H. G. Wells

“For the LORD disciplines those he loves, just as a father disciplines the son in whom he delights.” Prov.3

One reason we should be thankful when God chooses to correct us, is that it is one sure way of knowing He loves you. It may not be a pleasant reminder, but it is a certain one. Parents correct their own children not someone elses. Rebuke is a reminder that God looks on you as His child.  Conversations Within” ts 4/26/2014

“It’s not about you!” Rick Warren

“Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves.” Phil.2 NIV

Lord, you know I need your help all of the time! A good bit of the time, it’s something as simple as helping me forget about me so that I can join You in the joy of loving others. Channel the energy of my life so that I think first of those around me. Teach me the joy of giving instead of receiving. I would rather be a spigot, not a straw, a fountain, not a stagnant lake. Conversations Within” ts 4/25/2014

“It’s not about you!” Rick Warren

“Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves.” Phil.2 NIV

Lord, you know I need your help all of the time! A good bit of the time, it’s something as simple as helping me forget about me so that I can join You in the joy of loving others. Channel the energy of my life so that I think first of those around me. Teach me the joy of giving instead of receiving. I would rather be a spigot, not a straw, a fountain, not a stagnant lake. Conversations Within” ts 4/25/2014